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9 | 9 | 00:00:12 You could take things up a notch and change the equation and exchange value for money.
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| -00:00:17 That's what Ines Montani and her co-founder did when they started Explosion.ai with Spacey as a foundation. |
| 11 | +00:00:17 That's what Ines Montani and her co-founder did when they started Explosion.ai with spaCy as a foundation. |
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13 | 13 | 00:00:23 Listen to her story about building a sustainable software business on open source and Python.
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83 | 83 | 00:02:11 But I guess that ties more into your linguistics side of things, right?
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| -00:02:14 Yeah, and Spacey, especially. |
| 85 | +00:02:14 Yeah, and spaCy, especially. |
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| -00:02:15 Like Spacey, when I started working on Spacey, I realized that, wow, I can really combine what I liked. |
| 87 | +00:02:15 Like spaCy, when I started working on spaCy, I realized that, wow, I can really combine what I liked. |
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89 | 89 | 00:02:20 For example, front-end development with a bit more programming, other types of stuff with language
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109 | 109 | 00:02:46 Yeah, so our company is called Explosion AI, and we mostly develop a lot of open source software.
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| -00:02:50 One of those projects is Spacey, which is a popular library for NLP and Python. |
| 111 | +00:02:50 One of those projects is spaCy, which is a popular library for NLP and Python. |
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113 | 113 | 00:02:55 We also publish other products and other tools for software development developers.
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115 | 115 | 00:03:01 So we're a developer tools company.
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117 | 117 | 00:03:03 It really sounds like such an interesting project.
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| -00:03:04 And I love how you have Spacey and you kind of built a proper business on top of it, |
| 119 | +00:03:04 And I love how you have spaCy and you kind of built a proper business on top of it, |
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121 | 121 | 00:03:11 not, you know, just throw like a PayPal donate button on there and hope that that does something right.
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223 | 223 | 00:06:05 So let's talk about your journey and your project, your company, Explosion AI.
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| -00:06:11 So I guess maybe just set the background, like how does Explosion AI and Spacey, |
| 225 | +00:06:11 So I guess maybe just set the background, like how does Explosion AI and spaCy, |
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227 | 227 | 00:06:16 and we'll talk about some of the products you have, how does that whole history fit together and whatnot?
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235 | 235 | 00:06:30 We're finally getting to a point where this can actually be used in like commercial projects and help companies.
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| -00:06:35 So he left academia and started writing Spacey. |
| 237 | +00:06:35 So he left academia and started writing spaCy. |
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239 | 239 | 00:06:38 So he basically, he was in Australia, he moved to Berlin.
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249 | 249 | 00:06:56 And that's also something I was very interested in.
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| -00:06:58 So we started working on Spacey and this worked very well. |
| 251 | +00:06:58 So we started working on spaCy and this worked very well. |
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253 | 253 | 00:07:02 So yeah, we founded Explosion AI together.
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261 | 261 | 00:07:15 So we really, there were lots of companies who were interested in that.
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| -00:07:18 So we did have the advantage that we had Spacey. |
| 263 | +00:07:18 So we did have the advantage that we had spaCy. |
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265 | 265 | 00:07:20 People liked our work, wanted to implement this better.
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379 | 379 | 00:10:10 for machine learning projects and run experiments because the idea is, okay,
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| -00:10:15 if you're using a library like Spacey or any other machine learning solution, |
| 381 | +00:10:15 if you're using a library like spaCy or any other machine learning solution, |
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383 | 383 | 00:10:18 you ultimately, once it's really giving you a lot of value, you want to train
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429 | 429 | 00:11:26 If you can write it in Python, you can use it in Prodigy.
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| -00:11:28 Yeah, it's really cool because most people doing something with Spacey or other machine learning |
| 431 | +00:11:28 Yeah, it's really cool because most people doing something with spaCy or other machine learning |
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433 | 433 | 00:11:34 are, chances are they're already somewhat competent with Python anyway, right?
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435 | 435 | 00:11:38 And so you might as well just leverage that and that sounds really cool.
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| -00:11:42 And also a big reason people are using Spacey and open source tools like that |
| 437 | +00:11:42 And also a big reason people are using spaCy and open source tools like that |
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439 | 439 | 00:11:45 is because they want to build their own systems and implement them themselves
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661 | 661 | 00:17:30 So if you make it, like we've always wanted to have great docs, wanted it to be easy
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| 663 | +00:17:33 for people to use spaCy. |
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| -00:17:34 So if it's too easy to use Spacey, people don't need our services and we make less money. |
| 665 | +00:17:34 So if it's too easy to use spaCy, people don't need our services and we make less money. |
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| -00:17:38 But if Spacey is shit, we're losing business that way because people are not |
| 667 | +00:17:38 But if spaCy is shit, we're losing business that way because people are not |
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669 | 669 | 00:17:43 coming to us anymore and the library loses adoption.
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681 | 681 | 00:17:54 and actually, in fact, there are lots of consultants who are somewhat specializing
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| 683 | +00:17:58 on building stuff with spaCy and it works well for them and we think that's much better |
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685 | 685 | 00:18:02 for us than if we did all of that.
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853 | 853 | 00:22:34 that were actually built by pretty small teams, right?
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| -00:22:37 there's not that many people behind Spacey and that's super successful. |
| 855 | +00:22:37 there's not that many people behind spaCy and that's super successful. |
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857 | 857 | 00:22:39 There's not that many people behind Flask, right?
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